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Nothing said it was the "longest game in history" is said it was the longest ARCADE game in history. The game you refer to, stranger, was done on the Atari 2600 and no... it is no longer the longest console run in history.
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A person taking no breaks for 85 hours is not the same as taking breaks, maybe you have no common sense, or better yet who beat the 85 hour console record??????
Let's hear this one Mr. only been around since 2008????
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Twin Galaxies has never drug tested and neither has Guinness or any other adjudicator for marathon gaming attempts and world records. Between 2006 and 2008 there was some talk of professional leagues on the world circuit considering UAs to check for drugs in competitors, like Adderall, but that was never put into practice. So I have no idea what "OFFICIAL" rules you are referring to other than your own you constantly make up and sling, like a monkey does feces, every time another gamer does something extraordinary. To you every champion is a fraud...a fake...a cheater. You'll do or say anything to tear another player's reputation down in a bid to make theirs as disreputable as your own.
Marathons can be dangerous. Dehydration can be problematic and can also lead to serious health conditions; i.e. embolisms, irregular heartbeat, shock. John Salter is a professional marathoner well aware of the health risks and how to avoid them. Like most classic marathoners he avoids caffeine, high fructose sugary drinks and heavy carbs in large proportions during a marathon session because they accelerate dehydration and cause rapid burnout. During his run he drank water and ate tuna fish for boosts of omega 3 which helped keep his brain fueled. No drugs. Hell, the man doesn't even drink alcohol in his daily life.
The great Todd Rogers played his legendary marathon on a console -not a classic arcade machine. Big difference. Both men are titans who earned glorious achievements in gaming. John Salter has rightfully earned his place in the lineup of World Champions.
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The drug test RULES were written your an idiot another NOBODY before 2008 and a nobody NOW, bottom line rules are rules
They were written in the rules book, harder to do on a ONE life game than any arcade, I'm sure you know what he ate you sociopathalogical liar, were you there NEXT TO him no, did you watch his every move NO, is your post totally fabricated like your entire life YES....... Good day 2008 Noob
Than you say Twingalaxies never Drug Tested ummm you worked for them for lesss than a year, you were not even part of the scene till 2008 what the F... do you know, you have no records, you don't play games, I mean do you even work ever, seems like you and your sidekick spend more time worrying about what others do, than your own lives, proving you guy's ain't so big and busy......
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The drug test RULES were written your an idiot another NOBODY before 2008 and a nobody NOW, bottom line rules are rules
They were written in the rules book, harder to do on a ONE life game than any arcade, I'm sure you know what he ate you sociopathalogical liar, were you there NEXT TO him no, did you watch his every move NO, is your post totally fabricated like your entire life YES....... Good day 2008 Noob
Than you say Twingalaxies never Drug Tested ummm you worked for them for lesss than a year, you were not even part of the scene till 2008 what the F... do you know, you have no records, you don't play games, I mean do you even work ever, seems like you and your sidekick spend more time worrying about what others do, than your own lives, proving you guy's ain't so big and busy......
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Once again Cat de Lie to ya 2006 you were not even around in 2006, you need to stop trying to fabricate history like you and ur sidekick do, you know nothing about 2006, you both were no shows till the king of kong, were are your videos and pics PRIOR to 2008 NONE, where are your records NONE, what qualifications do you have ?????
NONE get out of our scene already, I mean you left what 15 TIMES already ????
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And I wanna add since you were part of the TWEEKER admin that ran tg, that encouraged doping, I would not be shocked it happened, we already know the GIECO guy did, rich, jourdan and George bragged about it on the streams, saying WE ENCOURAGE DOPING, only drug addicts say crap like that
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Awesome, Dan! Those who picked up on my Star Fire record holder search, check out what Dan Tearle has sitting around!
Reading about the hunt for the original Star Fire record holder (and possibly the oldest recorded video game record) made me think - my list of verified and played video games includes Star Fire 2. This game was still alive at my arcade unt... See more
Photo: Reading about the hunt for the original Star Fire record holder (and possibly the oldest recorded video game record) made me think - my list of verified and played video games includes Star Fire 2. This game was still alive at my arcade until at least 1987, and I remember the Star Wars inspired graphics very clearly. What I remember more though, was the unusual controller used in the game. I'm almost certain it was Star Fire 2 we had, upright version, huge cab with a controller that was pretty hard work.
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Dan Tearle Please note, this isn't *my* controller! However, the machine is on my list of machines I'm tracking down. It's believed this and some other examples may still be in storage somewhere. Hope there's no confusion here!
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Patrick Scott Patterson Ah... poop. Oh well . Can you at least confirm a suspicion I have that the missing champs score may have been a Star Fire 2 revision, but still installed in a cabinet labeled as Star Fire like this one?
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Dan Tearle Personally I'm almost certain it would have been 2 - I'm pretty sure they were in the same cabinet, just with an updated rom. The cabinet was as far as I'm aware, identical, so I'd agree it may well have been 2.
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Patrick Scott Patterson That's what I figure. The score seems high for the original... but if you look in MARP you'll see it's possible for Star Fire 2, which had high scores. Given how few of these they made, and that I can't find a flyer for 2 I can only figure they were installed in the same cabs, hence the gamer (or, possibly Walter or whoever logged the score) didn't know. Given how early the score is, I have little doubt of the claim... but the game I do. Hopefully we can find the champ and ask her if she recalls.
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Dan Tearle I've been searching for an example of a dedicated Star Fire 2 machine as well, and can only find Star Fire cabs running 2 within them. It piqued my interest exactly because of that - as an obscure title, yet I had a vivid recollection of seeing and playing it. Attract screen aside, I don't think there was any difference visually between the two, so it could be a very easy oversight.
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Patrick Scott Patterson Certainly, and being logged so early there's little doubt to me that the person would have lied about the score... nobody knew of TG yet... no real press for that sorta stuff just yet. I've only seen one Star Fire myself and I believe it was running 2 as well... but hard to recall for sure. It was at an arcade auction in 1995 and I wasn't thinking to take notes... never thought such a thing would be relevant to me now.
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Patrick Scott Patterson Also comes to my memory that there were other games with uncommon board revisions that simply saw them installed to dedicated cabinets. Saw a lot of Pac-Man bootlegs like that.... New Rally-X was that way as well, as was one few seem to recall: Qix II and Super Galaxians, etc. Only us uber-nerds ever truly paid attention to the title screens
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Dan Tearle For some reason, I noted every game I played or witnessed at the time, a list which luckily I still have written out today. I can't see the score being bogus either, as you say it was before scores were commonly noted and because it really is quite a curio of a title to even set a score on. Bootlegs and hacks were commonplace here, because of the ease of changing boards to cheaper versions or by negating the need for yet another physical cab. Pac-Man certainly seemed a common one to bootleg - 'The Glutton' was one I have on my list here.
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Matt Runnels "Certainly, and being logged so early there's little doubt to me that the person would have lied about the score... nobody knew of TG yet*... no real press** for that sorta stuff just yet."
*People lied about everything in terms of VG scores. Look at Nintendo Power's scoreboard or the other magazines around back then that had 15M Donkey Kong scores. Or ask someone who fishes about their biggest fish
**Time Magazine's cover that month was about VG's and had a story about a guy's HS.
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Patrick Scott Patterson I find it sad and pitiful that it is assumed that most scores from that era were fabricated. I find it sad that an entire generation of gamers who paved the way are judged because of a handful of examples. At the very start of 1982, there was not any fame nor fortune believed to exist yet for holding a high score. The TIME mag you mention was dated weeks later and didn't exactly cause an overnight quantum shift. Nintendo Power was so far later that it has zero merit in the conversation. Bottom line with the Star Fire score.. ask yourself: Does it make any sense? What would any sane person think they had to gain by fabricating a score on a hardly known title before most people had ever even heard of the idea of a centralized scoreboard and before any real press had existed for such things? Bottom line... this is the longest held score there is... and seeking out the record holder is intended to be a positive story. I guess I'll have to live til I'm 100 before I'll see something about world records on old video games come out without someone, somewhere choosing to call something into question without any actual meritorious reason to do so. I believe the Star Fire score was done on a Star Fire 2 set and is legit. Perhaps any further "throw out all the old scores because of a handful of examples we heard about from other people" stuff should wait until the champ is found, eh? Maybe she can shed some light on it?
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Matt Runnels I'm not accusing the score of being fabricated. I believe you were the one bringing up legitimacy. The fact the MAME record is so close makes me believe it's legit but who knows. I hope you get in contact with the record holder and hope it's a great story.
"What would any sane person think they had to gain by fabricating a score..."
Because people lie all the time. "My kid is 7, give him the half price kid's meal" "Here's my golf handicap" "I was at Woodstock" "I once bowled a 300" "I know the owner" "etc...
"Bottom line... this is the longest held score there is"
Todd Rogers-Dragster?
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Patrick Scott Patterson 1. Note the wording that is ALL OVER the story here. Longest standing ARCADE record. I have all the respect in the world for Todd but good lord, man... his Dragster run and Journey Escape game were console runs, so I have no idea why people bring them up all the time in arcade-based conversations. 2. Technically, the Star Fire score IS older than the Dragster run. Todd beat his own record time many months after the Star Fire score was set. In fact, there are actually 4 or 5 scores with early 1982 dates, one of which is Amidar, a moderate hit game... and Zaxxon, which was one of the biggest hits ever (though that one I DO believe is a fake)
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Patrick Scott Patterson Also... I find it sad, Matt, that you or anyone else has a "people lie all the time" thing. In my world I trust few, but find that most people are generally honest, at least until or unless they WANT something from ya or have something valuable and tangible to gain. I don't see where a person would feel they had anything valuable or tangible to gain by noting a Star Fire score at the very top of 1982. Proven score fabrications from back then such as DK and Pac-Man have a common theme: There was indeed very valuable things to gain (or lose) with those titles at those periods of time, especially for those particular people.
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So while I whip up something that has been a long time coming, I'm going to leave something here that's a bit of a devil's advocate kinda thing.
Has there ever been one single world record on a retro video game that didn't have people talking down about it? Ever?
I was trying to think of one yesterday and could not. I've put out hundreds of features and announcements about new records over the last many years and yet every single one seems to be met with some negativity somewhere.
- Pat Laffaye got huge press for beating the "Costanza score" on Frogger, so much so that he returned home to a reporter on his front porch and Jason Alexander himself released a short statement. Sure enough, people complained... from asking why every other record doesn't get that much attention (the reasons of which should be obvious) to people taking issue with the fact that a MAME score that topped the Seinfeld mark was "more deserving" (even after I reminded them that the media told me they wouldn't pick up something on an emulator)
- John McAllister knocks down the Asteroids world record. Not only did this get huge press attention but even Jay Leno mentioned it in his Tonight Show opening. Sure enough, people found reason to knock him for his playing technique or even on the speed of the boardset, despite evidence that the majority if not the entirety of the previously listed scores were done on sped up boards as well.
- Steve Wiebe... well, I shouldn't even have to mention the details here. Hell, even when he got it back for a short time in 2010 there were those who knocked it and called him into question, despite countless live performances that should prove him as the real deal already.
Even media coverage seems to get this.
- ESPN filmed a thing at Funspot years ago featuring a great many gamers. It was a wonderful piece that, to anyone who knows anything about television, was a filler piece. Sure enough, it didn't even run until 9 months later... as filler. People complained that it took too long to air while others complained that certain people were or were not in it.
- Vince and Hank get a neat feature on them from the Kong Off 3 that gains hundreds of thousands of views and appears briefly on the VGX awards to boot. Sure enough, some people took issue with it focusing only on them, despite some of the other players refusing to work with the media going into the event anyway.
I could provide examples all day. John Salter's Armor Attack run is blowing up still... hitting Yahoo! earlier today and gaining a huge amount of international coverage. Rather than be happy for the guy or for the scene in general for having such a far reaching story, there are some people knocking him for his "easy" strategy while others suggest that he must have done drugs to get there or something.
Bottom line... can't others simply be happy for those who get mainstream media attention for feats on old video games? It's damn hard to get it, as the mainstream media doesn't care about any of it organically, and it actually benefits everybody when it takes place.
Instead, there are seemingly always people who want to be blowhards about it. Some are all upset because it's not about them. Others are grumpy because they want to create additional "rules" or whatever that aren't there. Whatever.
In a "community" that always sees people pointing fingers at an endless array of people they don't even know, blaming them for their perceived problems with the whole competitive retro gaming scenes or high score chasing organizations while proclaiming to have all the answers as to how to "fix it"
Perhaps a good first step would be killing the negative reaction to anyone and everyone who dares to get a little attention for busting a record.
If anyone can think of an instance... ANY instance... where multiple people chose not to take issue with a mainstream media blitz about something someone did on an old video game, please point it out to me. I cannot think of a single one.
And that's sad.
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Nothing said it was the "longest game in history" is said it was the longest ARCADE game in history. The game you refer to, stranger, was done on the Atari 2600 and no... it is no longer the longest console run in history.
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A person taking no breaks for 85 hours is not the same as taking breaks, maybe you have no common sense, or better yet who beat the 85 hour console record??????
Let's hear this one Mr. only been around since 2008????
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Twin Galaxies has never drug tested and neither has Guinness or any other adjudicator for marathon gaming attempts and world records. Between 2006 and 2008 there was some talk of professional leagues on the world circuit considering UAs to check for drugs in competitors, like Adderall, but that was never put into practice. So I have no idea what "OFFICIAL" rules you are referring to other than your own you constantly make up and sling, like a monkey does feces, every time another gamer does something extraordinary. To you every champion is a fraud...a fake...a cheater. You'll do or say anything to tear another player's reputation down in a bid to make theirs as disreputable as your own.
Marathons can be dangerous. Dehydration can be problematic and can also lead to serious health conditions; i.e. embolisms, irregular heartbeat, shock. John Salter is a professional marathoner well aware of the health risks and how to avoid them. Like most classic marathoners he avoids caffeine, high fructose sugary drinks and heavy carbs in large proportions during a marathon session because they accelerate dehydration and cause rapid burnout. During his run he drank water and ate tuna fish for boosts of omega 3 which helped keep his brain fueled. No drugs. Hell, the man doesn't even drink alcohol in his daily life.
The great Todd Rogers played his legendary marathon on a console -not a classic arcade machine. Big difference. Both men are titans who earned glorious achievements in gaming. John Salter has rightfully earned his place in the lineup of World Champions.
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They were written in the rules book, harder to do on a ONE life game than any arcade, I'm sure you know what he ate you sociopathalogical liar, were you there NEXT TO him no, did you watch his every move NO, is your post totally fabricated like your entire life YES....... Good day 2008 Noob
Than you say Twingalaxies never Drug Tested ummm you worked for them for lesss than a year, you were not even part of the scene till 2008 what the F... do you know, you have no records, you don't play games, I mean do you even work ever, seems like you and your sidekick spend more time worrying about what others do, than your own lives, proving you guy's ain't so big and busy......
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The drug test RULES were written your an idiot another NOBODY before 2008 and a nobody NOW, bottom line rules are rules
They were written in the rules book, harder to do on a ONE life game than any arcade, I'm sure you know what he ate you sociopathalogical liar, were you there NEXT TO him no, did you watch his every move NO, is your post totally fabricated like your entire life YES....... Good day 2008 Noob
Than you say Twingalaxies never Drug Tested ummm you worked for them for lesss than a year, you were not even part of the scene till 2008 what the F... do you know, you have no records, you don't play games, I mean do you even work ever, seems like you and your sidekick spend more time worrying about what others do, than your own lives, proving you guy's ain't so big and busy......
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Once again Cat de Lie to ya 2006 you were not even around in 2006, you need to stop trying to fabricate history like you and ur sidekick do, you know nothing about 2006, you both were no shows till the king of kong, were are your videos and pics PRIOR to 2008 NONE, where are your records NONE, what qualifications do you have ?????
NONE get out of our scene already, I mean you left what 15 TIMES already ????
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And I wanna add since you were part of the TWEEKER admin that ran tg, that encouraged doping, I would not be shocked it happened, we already know the GIECO guy did, rich, jourdan and George bragged about it on the streams, saying WE ENCOURAGE DOPING, only drug addicts say crap like that
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Awesome, Dan! Those who picked up on my Star Fire record holder search, check out what Dan Tearle has sitting around!
Reading about the hunt for the original Star Fire record holder (and possibly the oldest recorded video game record) made me think - my list of verified and played video games includes Star Fire 2. This game was still alive at my arcade unt... See more
Photo: Reading about the hunt for the original Star Fire record holder (and possibly the oldest recorded video game record) made me think - my list of verified and played video games includes Star Fire 2. This game was still alive at my arcade until at least 1987, and I remember the Star Wars inspired graphics very clearly. What I remember more though, was the unusual controller used in the game. I'm almost certain it was Star Fire 2 we had, upright version, huge cab with a controller that was pretty hard work.
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Dan Tearle Please note, this isn't *my* controller! However, the machine is on my list of machines I'm tracking down. It's believed this and some other examples may still be in storage somewhere. Hope there's no confusion here!
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Patrick Scott Patterson Ah... poop. Oh well . Can you at least confirm a suspicion I have that the missing champs score may have been a Star Fire 2 revision, but still installed in a cabinet labeled as Star Fire like this one?
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Dan Tearle Personally I'm almost certain it would have been 2 - I'm pretty sure they were in the same cabinet, just with an updated rom. The cabinet was as far as I'm aware, identical, so I'd agree it may well have been 2.
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Patrick Scott Patterson That's what I figure. The score seems high for the original... but if you look in MARP you'll see it's possible for Star Fire 2, which had high scores. Given how few of these they made, and that I can't find a flyer for 2 I can only figure they were installed in the same cabs, hence the gamer (or, possibly Walter or whoever logged the score) didn't know. Given how early the score is, I have little doubt of the claim... but the game I do. Hopefully we can find the champ and ask her if she recalls.
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Dan Tearle I've been searching for an example of a dedicated Star Fire 2 machine as well, and can only find Star Fire cabs running 2 within them. It piqued my interest exactly because of that - as an obscure title, yet I had a vivid recollection of seeing and playing it. Attract screen aside, I don't think there was any difference visually between the two, so it could be a very easy oversight.
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Patrick Scott Patterson Certainly, and being logged so early there's little doubt to me that the person would have lied about the score... nobody knew of TG yet... no real press for that sorta stuff just yet. I've only seen one Star Fire myself and I believe it was running 2 as well... but hard to recall for sure. It was at an arcade auction in 1995 and I wasn't thinking to take notes... never thought such a thing would be relevant to me now.
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Patrick Scott Patterson Also comes to my memory that there were other games with uncommon board revisions that simply saw them installed to dedicated cabinets. Saw a lot of Pac-Man bootlegs like that.... New Rally-X was that way as well, as was one few seem to recall: Qix II and Super Galaxians, etc. Only us uber-nerds ever truly paid attention to the title screens
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Dan Tearle For some reason, I noted every game I played or witnessed at the time, a list which luckily I still have written out today. I can't see the score being bogus either, as you say it was before scores were commonly noted and because it really is quite a curio of a title to even set a score on. Bootlegs and hacks were commonplace here, because of the ease of changing boards to cheaper versions or by negating the need for yet another physical cab. Pac-Man certainly seemed a common one to bootleg - 'The Glutton' was one I have on my list here.
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Matt Runnels "Certainly, and being logged so early there's little doubt to me that the person would have lied about the score... nobody knew of TG yet*... no real press** for that sorta stuff just yet."
*People lied about everything in terms of VG scores. Look at Nintendo Power's scoreboard or the other magazines around back then that had 15M Donkey Kong scores. Or ask someone who fishes about their biggest fish
**Time Magazine's cover that month was about VG's and had a story about a guy's HS.
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Patrick Scott Patterson I find it sad and pitiful that it is assumed that most scores from that era were fabricated. I find it sad that an entire generation of gamers who paved the way are judged because of a handful of examples. At the very start of 1982, there was not any fame nor fortune believed to exist yet for holding a high score. The TIME mag you mention was dated weeks later and didn't exactly cause an overnight quantum shift. Nintendo Power was so far later that it has zero merit in the conversation. Bottom line with the Star Fire score.. ask yourself: Does it make any sense? What would any sane person think they had to gain by fabricating a score on a hardly known title before most people had ever even heard of the idea of a centralized scoreboard and before any real press had existed for such things? Bottom line... this is the longest held score there is... and seeking out the record holder is intended to be a positive story. I guess I'll have to live til I'm 100 before I'll see something about world records on old video games come out without someone, somewhere choosing to call something into question without any actual meritorious reason to do so. I believe the Star Fire score was done on a Star Fire 2 set and is legit. Perhaps any further "throw out all the old scores because of a handful of examples we heard about from other people" stuff should wait until the champ is found, eh? Maybe she can shed some light on it?
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Matt Runnels I'm not accusing the score of being fabricated. I believe you were the one bringing up legitimacy. The fact the MAME record is so close makes me believe it's legit but who knows. I hope you get in contact with the record holder and hope it's a great story.
"What would any sane person think they had to gain by fabricating a score..."
Because people lie all the time. "My kid is 7, give him the half price kid's meal" "Here's my golf handicap" "I was at Woodstock" "I once bowled a 300" "I know the owner" "etc...
"Bottom line... this is the longest held score there is"
Todd Rogers-Dragster?
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Patrick Scott Patterson 1. Note the wording that is ALL OVER the story here. Longest standing ARCADE record. I have all the respect in the world for Todd but good lord, man... his Dragster run and Journey Escape game were console runs, so I have no idea why people bring them up all the time in arcade-based conversations. 2. Technically, the Star Fire score IS older than the Dragster run. Todd beat his own record time many months after the Star Fire score was set. In fact, there are actually 4 or 5 scores with early 1982 dates, one of which is Amidar, a moderate hit game... and Zaxxon, which was one of the biggest hits ever (though that one I DO believe is a fake)
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Patrick Scott Patterson Also... I find it sad, Matt, that you or anyone else has a "people lie all the time" thing. In my world I trust few, but find that most people are generally honest, at least until or unless they WANT something from ya or have something valuable and tangible to gain. I don't see where a person would feel they had anything valuable or tangible to gain by noting a Star Fire score at the very top of 1982. Proven score fabrications from back then such as DK and Pac-Man have a common theme: There was indeed very valuable things to gain (or lose) with those titles at those periods of time, especially for those particular people.
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So while I whip up something that has been a long time coming, I'm going to leave something here that's a bit of a devil's advocate kinda thing.
Has there ever been one single world record on a retro video game that didn't have people talking down about it? Ever?
I was trying to think of one yesterday and could not. I've put out hundreds of features and announcements about new records over the last many years and yet every single one seems to be met with some negativity somewhere.
- Pat Laffaye got huge press for beating the "Costanza score" on Frogger, so much so that he returned home to a reporter on his front porch and Jason Alexander himself released a short statement. Sure enough, people complained... from asking why every other record doesn't get that much attention (the reasons of which should be obvious) to people taking issue with the fact that a MAME score that topped the Seinfeld mark was "more deserving" (even after I reminded them that the media told me they wouldn't pick up something on an emulator)
- John McAllister knocks down the Asteroids world record. Not only did this get huge press attention but even Jay Leno mentioned it in his Tonight Show opening. Sure enough, people found reason to knock him for his playing technique or even on the speed of the boardset, despite evidence that the majority if not the entirety of the previously listed scores were done on sped up boards as well.
- Steve Wiebe... well, I shouldn't even have to mention the details here. Hell, even when he got it back for a short time in 2010 there were those who knocked it and called him into question, despite countless live performances that should prove him as the real deal already.
Even media coverage seems to get this.
- ESPN filmed a thing at Funspot years ago featuring a great many gamers. It was a wonderful piece that, to anyone who knows anything about television, was a filler piece. Sure enough, it didn't even run until 9 months later... as filler. People complained that it took too long to air while others complained that certain people were or were not in it.
- Vince and Hank get a neat feature on them from the Kong Off 3 that gains hundreds of thousands of views and appears briefly on the VGX awards to boot. Sure enough, some people took issue with it focusing only on them, despite some of the other players refusing to work with the media going into the event anyway.
I could provide examples all day. John Salter's Armor Attack run is blowing up still... hitting Yahoo! earlier today and gaining a huge amount of international coverage. Rather than be happy for the guy or for the scene in general for having such a far reaching story, there are some people knocking him for his "easy" strategy while others suggest that he must have done drugs to get there or something.
Bottom line... can't others simply be happy for those who get mainstream media attention for feats on old video games? It's damn hard to get it, as the mainstream media doesn't care about any of it organically, and it actually benefits everybody when it takes place.
Instead, there are seemingly always people who want to be blowhards about it. Some are all upset because it's not about them. Others are grumpy because they want to create additional "rules" or whatever that aren't there. Whatever.
In a "community" that always sees people pointing fingers at an endless array of people they don't even know, blaming them for their perceived problems with the whole competitive retro gaming scenes or high score chasing organizations while proclaiming to have all the answers as to how to "fix it"
Perhaps a good first step would be killing the negative reaction to anyone and everyone who dares to get a little attention for busting a record.
If anyone can think of an instance... ANY instance... where multiple people chose not to take issue with a mainstream media blitz about something someone did on an old video game, please point it out to me. I cannot think of a single one.
And that's sad.
